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How PL justifies the US killing of Cuban children - Another blatant lie from dan Christensen
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krp
2009-11-08 17:19:21 UTC
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Mr. Christensen,
You falsely claimed PL would support and or justify the killing of
Cuban children by claiming he did so because of the high markups the
Cuban government charges in its monopoly shops for imported items.
You snipped and ran here because in the previous thread you had been
ridiculed both on your claims that the commercial sanctions in any way
were intended to kill children and on the rather ludicrous remark that
high process charged by the Cuban government would be the motivation
for other people, like PL, to support these sanctions.
Just to not let you get away with snipping and running again, I post
my reply about your lying statements about the motivation of both PL
and KRP here again your lies about genocide and intent to kill having
been more than sufficiently debunked in the past.
When KRP made the point that the commercial sanctions were created to
stop the Cuban government from profiting of its people's hardship
created by the regime's policies, you of course claimed it was a
rationalization, the way you often refer to facts you can't refute.
Comrade Christensen is a talented LIAR.
PL stepped in showing that far from being some rationalization saying
that the Cuban government was profiteering and proved facts and, as
always, links in hand that on vital food items desperately needed by
the
Cuban people it charges a large mark-up. Just an example of how the
Cuban government profits from the remittances that Cubans receive,
and
which they need to live, by, as Cubans say, harvesting (recaudar)
these
remittances through these high price levels.
So KRP made a point that the sanctions were aimed to deny the Cuban
government the benefits of its abuses (going way beyond this policy of
excessive mark-ups he didn't even mention), while PL exposed by way of
the example that you lied when you stated the Cuban government was in no
way profiteering.
Neither of them even claimed that these mark-ups were the foundation
of
or justification for the commercial sanctions.
That was just your rather stupid lie.
You seem to me a man that has lost his balance and that is losing
touch
with reality Mr. Christensen.
Whether that is because you have such a personality to start with or
that you feel you have nothing left but this opera buffo (comical
opera)
way of posting because you have been cornered again and again by your
own lies, I don't know.
What I do know is that these idiocies of yours destroy the little bit
of
credibility you may have dreamed you still had.
After another performance like this nobody can ever take you serious
again.
I know I won't.
Bottom line: you lied and slandered again.
Comrade Commissar Christensen makes grandiose claims about Cuba despite
never actually having been there.
krp
2009-11-08 21:59:21 UTC
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Mr. Christensen,
You falsely claimed PL would support and or justify the killing of
Cuban children by claiming he did so because of the high markups the
Cuban government charges in its monopoly shops for imported items.
COMRADE C> Again, Amnesty International, only a few weeks ago, reported:

COMRADE C> "The export of medicines and medical supplies continues to be
COMRADE C> SEVERELY LIMITED....

Mostly attributable to the FACT that Cuba won't come up with the CASH.
And given that Cuba has become a notorious DEADBEAT nation, they have to buy
the stuff from the more GULLIBLE nations of the world who get STIFFED for
payment.

COMRADE C> “The RESTRICTIONS IMPOSED BY THE EMBARGO help to deprive Cuba of
vital
COMRADE C> access to medicines, new scientific and medical technology, food,
COMRADE C> chemical water treatment and electricity.” [See footnotes]

And they are mistaken.
krp
2009-11-14 19:04:05 UTC
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[snipping portions of "Chris's" posting already debunked here, or just
too lame to both with]
It seems that Mr. Christensen has no other alternative than to snip
and
run, something he falsely accuses others of.
As I said and what you of course snipped as it clearly shows you
When KRP made the point that the commercial sanctions were created to
stop the Cuban government from profiting of its people's hardship
created by the regime's policies, you of course claimed it was a
rationalization, the way you often refer to facts you can't refute.
PL stepped in showing that far from being some rationalization saying
that the Cuban government was profiteering and proved facts and, as
always, links in hand that on vital food items desperately needed by
the Cuban people it charges a large mark-up. Just an example of how
the
Cuban government profits from the remittances that Cubans receive,
and which they need to live, by, as Cubans say, harvesting (recaudar)
these remittances through these high price levels.
So KRP made a point that the sanctions were aimed to deny the Cuban
government the benefits of its abuses (going way beyond this policy
of excessive mark-ups he didn't even mention), while PL exposed by way
of the example that you lied when you stated the Cuban government was
in
no way profiteering.
Neither of them even claimed that these mark-ups were the foundation
of or justification for the commercial sanctions.
That was just your rather stupid lie.
You seem to me a man that has lost his balance and that is losing
touch with reality Mr. Christensen.
Whether that is because you have such a personality to start with or
that you feel you have nothing left but this opera buffo (comical
opera) way of posting because you have been cornered again and again
by
your own lies, I don't know.
What I do know is that these idiocies of yours destroy the little bit
of credibility you may have dreamed you still had.
After another performance like this nobody can ever take you serious
again.
I know I won't.
Bottom line: you lied and slandered again.
You falsely claimed PL would support and or justify the killing of
Cuban children by claiming he did so because of the high markups the
Cuban government charges in its monopoly shops for imported items.
(snip)
Again, Amnesty International, (snip)
Mr. Christensen.
Please stop posting the same irrelevant items over and over again.
The issue is whether Amnesty ever referred to the commercial sanctions
as genocide.
Your quotes show that they have not.
Mr. Christensen.
Amnesty international never claimed the USA had any intent on killing
people.
[snip]
Very evasive,(snip)
I would say: "to the point".
You are the evasive one here, Mr. Christensen.
You have shown that over and over again.
You claimed they did. All quotes, including yours, shows they didn't.
When KRP made the point that the commercial sanctions were created to
stop the Cuban government from profiting of its people's hardship
created by the regime's policies, you of course claimed it was a
rationalization
It is a rationalization that has been rejected by almost the entire
international community. (snip)
(snip)
No, Mr. Christensen.
I have addressed the issue.
What you call rationalizations are in fact facts.
No, Mr. Christensen.
That is just another gratuitous confirmation from the loner Dan
Christensen.
Still in denial, (snip)
I do not deny reality, Mr. Christensen.
You do.
You lied about Amnesty International supporting your claims of
genocide.
You lied about me and about others.
Lying is about all you do.
For example: show me where any source denied that, as PL documented,
the Cuban government applies mark-ups of 240% in its monopoly divisa
shops.
[snip]
Even if this were true, how would it be this relevant?
(snip)
It is very relevant, Mr. Christensen.
It shows PL was right when he posted this as an example of
profiteering
by the Cuba monopoly system.
You find yourself again standing alone with your lies exposed.
There are 3 or 4 hard-line Marxists that read the Cuba newsgroups. Years ago
they would join Comrade Christensen in his ranting. Today none of them will
touch his bullshit with a 20 foot pole.

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